Tencent Automobile: The "New Energy Plan" mentioned that in terms of sales volume, by 2015, the cumulative production and sales volume of pure electric vehicles and plug-in hybrid vehicles will strive to reach 500,000; in the electric vehicle mileage, by 2015, pure The maximum speed of electric passenger cars and plug-in hybrid passenger cars is not less than 100 km/h. What do you think of this figure?
Release low-speed electric vehicles to achieve 500,000 sales is not a problem <br> <br> Hui Guo: This is a conceptual problem there. We have some modern management departments and limit the electric cars too much. In particular, the speed is lower and the mileage is shorter. Now 100 kilometers is not to say that it cannot be done. I think many places do not need 100 kilometers. Speed ​​does not need to be 100 kilometers or even mileage, some places do not necessarily need 100 kilometers, to be a deadly rule, I think this thing is done stupid.
The Chinese market is so big. China has a variety of cities. Apart from cities, they are close to urban areas and rural areas. The indicators they need are different. The lower the index, the lower the speed, the less battery it will have, the lighter it will be, and the lighter it will not only be cheap but it will also have less batteries. So I often tell people that our pure electric vehicle has a vicious circle of weight, high indicators, more battery packs, more batteries and more weight, but it also requires more equipment, this is a malignant one. cycle. Therefore, as long as the electric car design is adequate, we must not make excessive demands. When it's enough, the design is more expensive, the better the economic efficiency, the characteristics of the electric car is because the battery is relatively heavy, so I would argue that it should be released in accordance with the place suitable for low-speed electric vehicles. Let it be used. This is the most reasonable and most economical.
You don't want to make uniform regulations. You must be 100 kilometers. I don't need to use 100 kilometers in that place. You have to use 100 kilometers. After 100 kilometers, you may have more than 100 kilometers of mileage. At this time, you may need to use a lithium battery. Moreover, the government has now banned lead-acid batteries, and has to use lithium batteries. This kind of provision I think is stupid. The government should not go to the technical issues and let the market test them. What the market wants, what are you going to do? Market to guide.
We have developed what is currently going on in the industrialization of electric vehicles. We have four words: market guidance; low-end cut-in; promotion of small-scale promotion is to foster smallness and promote largeness; then the last sentence is multi-city development. Limit to a city. Because we have a vast territory, China has too many places and vast territory, its demand is very complicated.
So you should fully meet the market's needs, do not limit, do not hang in a tree, the market needs what you give it, now relatively low-speed electric cars are very economical, 10 times cheaper than ordinary gasoline vehicles There are times when there are more than one. So in this case, if you have a hard rule, don't let it say something, make sure it doesn't exist, then you can't develop it.
If you follow a relatively small economy, use government subsidies, and develop in the market, you can develop yourself without subsidies, and you can make profits, and you can develop. If you say such a good thing, why does the government have to stop it? In order to limit it, many companies are gradually realizing that they must take this path. More and more local governments are aware of this development.
If it is said that this low-speed electric car should be let go, this counts into the electric car. I said that in the three years of 500,000, I think there is no problem. This is my opinion.
New energy should develop independently based on cooperation
Tencent Automobile: After the country's strategic orientation of new energy, in addition to independent innovation, how not to repeat the mistakes of the vehicle assembly plant, based on this new energy, can really learn things? How can I go this way?
Guo Konghui: This road should be said that we summarize the development process of ordinary cars in the past. We do not refuse cooperation on the one hand, but we must continue to develop independently. This is because it is beneficial to everyone. In addition, from the perspective of electric vehicles, I think that our foundation is better than when we started ordinary car joint ventures. Now, we seem to be currently working on more cooperation besides batteries. Other things we actually There is not much need to engage in such a large-scale joint venture.
The result of a joint venture is often technologically controlled by development. We must especially avoid it because the joint venture capitalist wants to make money, maximize its interests, or control you. What about my interests? I have trained you as a competitor. My interests simply cannot be described. So it's inherently limiting your development, and when it's possible to make money to a certain extent, it agrees to do it together, but it won't completely hand over the technology to you.
Therefore, I am generally optimistic about electric cars. It is to see what path we take. We can let small ones develop first. It requires a lower price, it is not difficult to charge, and there is no need to set up so many charging piles. It is like a refrigerator at home and it can be plugged in. It can be charged at night, it can be used during the day, and charging stations do not need to develop so much. Of course, some charging in the city also need to set a little charging pile, simple charging pile, the equivalent of air-conditioning charging pile on the line.
This will allow the development of small ones first. We will make electric vehicles with batteries light, which can win people's welcome. They can afford them. They are cheap. They are very cheap to use. They are very cheap to buy. You are willing to use them. After the development, some cities need higher speeds, and those bosses will naturally go to high speeds and high metrics. Now that it has appeared, there are also speeds in excess of 100. Now, lead-acid batteries are used instead of lithium batteries. Such a car is not expensive, it is cheaper than many cars running in Beijing now, so that it does not subsidize and it can also make money.
Without subsidizing the car that can make money, let it develop, and its quantity will surely increase. If you have to subsidize, the government will subsidize for a while, and if you don't subsidize it for a while, you must have done something wrong.
Tencent Auto: Do ​​you still think that market leadership is the most important?
Guo Konghui: Yes, market guidance, and do not limit the low end, do not let many cars can export, in our country can not get an account, can not get a license. Let those bosses, let the market decide some things, the government does not always feel that they can do everything and can control everything. This kind of regulation and control is too much like managing a child. It's not OK to control it too much. You have to let him develop.
Unlimited purchase will promote the development of new energy vehicles
Tencent Auto: New energy vehicles are not only purchased, but also one of the new plans. How do you see the new energy vehicles are not limited to purchase?
Guo Konghui: I think this is a good thing and encourage everyone to use new energy vehicles. However, there is no limit to the purchase of the other side must be limited, the total must be limited, you limit the limit of new energy vehicles to ordinary cars. It is necessary to do this because it is certain that the capacity of the entire city is also limited. The city’s road facilities and management levels are constantly improving, and some capacity can be increased each year. The road facilities are sure to improve every year, and also increase some capacity. This capacity hopes to be given later. Energy car.
China should gradually learn to develop its own car
Tencent Automobile: There is a big gap between China's auto industry and the international auto industry. If we want to make up for such a gap, what should we do?
Guo Konghui: I want to bridge this gap. First of all, we don't rely solely on joint ventures to produce according to other people's models. I think we should gradually learn to develop cars. This is the first point.
We have been joint ventures for many years. We have learned a lot and we have learned a lot from joint ventures. However, we have also found that there may be some problems in the past joint venture methods. Since we have been joint ventures for 20 years, we have found that we are still technically unable to do anything.
The joint venture should be said to have played an important role in the development of Chinese cars, especially in the early stages, making it possible for us to move forward on a more advanced basis. So the problem now is that we have found that we have encountered a problem that is not easy to continue to develop in the face of a continuing development. We have discovered that after many years of joint ventures, we will only produce such products as molds, and we will not develop ourselves and innovate on our own. This is probably not enough, and we need another way to help us and expand our own capabilities.
One problem I just mentioned was that many colleagues used to do these reflections together. This issue cannot be said to be the object of our cooperation with us. The main thing is we ourselves, we do not think why you do not want to think that you should learn to walk in the field. Always hold people away. I have always had some arguments. Some government officials do not agree with me. Our original policy did not encourage us to learn to walk on our own. This is a policy. Our China policy is very important.
In addition, there are some Chinese institutions that cause the leaders of some companies do not want to spend the effort to create their own products. It takes a lot of effort to develop on their own. If innovations do not work well, they have to suffer. So this is one aspect. On the other hand, we have now started to encourage independent development and independent innovation in recent years. From the central government to all localities, we have begun to encourage independent innovation. I should say this is a start. In the future, on the one hand, we will draw on advanced foreign experience and learn advanced things from abroad. The other will have our own ambition, strive to learn, and strive to innovate in learning so that our own level can be continuously improved. To improve, it can also make the international automobile industry make its due contribution to such a big country.
Finally, I would like to say that we now have governments at all levels that have begun to realize that we need to develop independently and independently, and of course we will also be able to export to the international market in the future and make progress in the competition in the international market. Get development. We now realize that when we want to develop on our own, at this time I think we should go back and emphasize that we should not forget that we must also promote our international cooperation. We must also better serve the international advanced countries. Learning, and if necessary, we must also introduce advanced technologies. So I used to say that in the past, we were not developing our own innovations. At that time, one of the opinions was that most of them emphasized independent innovation. This is a bit different from others. Sometimes it is not easy for others to understand. Now I think that we have gradually embarked on independent development. When we are on the track, we should at the present stage emphasize the advanced learning of the international community.
Release low-speed electric vehicles to achieve 500,000 sales is not a problem <br> <br> Hui Guo: This is a conceptual problem there. We have some modern management departments and limit the electric cars too much. In particular, the speed is lower and the mileage is shorter. Now 100 kilometers is not to say that it cannot be done. I think many places do not need 100 kilometers. Speed ​​does not need to be 100 kilometers or even mileage, some places do not necessarily need 100 kilometers, to be a deadly rule, I think this thing is done stupid.
The Chinese market is so big. China has a variety of cities. Apart from cities, they are close to urban areas and rural areas. The indicators they need are different. The lower the index, the lower the speed, the less battery it will have, the lighter it will be, and the lighter it will not only be cheap but it will also have less batteries. So I often tell people that our pure electric vehicle has a vicious circle of weight, high indicators, more battery packs, more batteries and more weight, but it also requires more equipment, this is a malignant one. cycle. Therefore, as long as the electric car design is adequate, we must not make excessive demands. When it's enough, the design is more expensive, the better the economic efficiency, the characteristics of the electric car is because the battery is relatively heavy, so I would argue that it should be released in accordance with the place suitable for low-speed electric vehicles. Let it be used. This is the most reasonable and most economical.
You don't want to make uniform regulations. You must be 100 kilometers. I don't need to use 100 kilometers in that place. You have to use 100 kilometers. After 100 kilometers, you may have more than 100 kilometers of mileage. At this time, you may need to use a lithium battery. Moreover, the government has now banned lead-acid batteries, and has to use lithium batteries. This kind of provision I think is stupid. The government should not go to the technical issues and let the market test them. What the market wants, what are you going to do? Market to guide.
We have developed what is currently going on in the industrialization of electric vehicles. We have four words: market guidance; low-end cut-in; promotion of small-scale promotion is to foster smallness and promote largeness; then the last sentence is multi-city development. Limit to a city. Because we have a vast territory, China has too many places and vast territory, its demand is very complicated.
So you should fully meet the market's needs, do not limit, do not hang in a tree, the market needs what you give it, now relatively low-speed electric cars are very economical, 10 times cheaper than ordinary gasoline vehicles There are times when there are more than one. So in this case, if you have a hard rule, don't let it say something, make sure it doesn't exist, then you can't develop it.
If you follow a relatively small economy, use government subsidies, and develop in the market, you can develop yourself without subsidies, and you can make profits, and you can develop. If you say such a good thing, why does the government have to stop it? In order to limit it, many companies are gradually realizing that they must take this path. More and more local governments are aware of this development.
If it is said that this low-speed electric car should be let go, this counts into the electric car. I said that in the three years of 500,000, I think there is no problem. This is my opinion.
New energy should develop independently based on cooperation
Tencent Automobile: After the country's strategic orientation of new energy, in addition to independent innovation, how not to repeat the mistakes of the vehicle assembly plant, based on this new energy, can really learn things? How can I go this way?
Guo Konghui: This road should be said that we summarize the development process of ordinary cars in the past. We do not refuse cooperation on the one hand, but we must continue to develop independently. This is because it is beneficial to everyone. In addition, from the perspective of electric vehicles, I think that our foundation is better than when we started ordinary car joint ventures. Now, we seem to be currently working on more cooperation besides batteries. Other things we actually There is not much need to engage in such a large-scale joint venture.
The result of a joint venture is often technologically controlled by development. We must especially avoid it because the joint venture capitalist wants to make money, maximize its interests, or control you. What about my interests? I have trained you as a competitor. My interests simply cannot be described. So it's inherently limiting your development, and when it's possible to make money to a certain extent, it agrees to do it together, but it won't completely hand over the technology to you.
Therefore, I am generally optimistic about electric cars. It is to see what path we take. We can let small ones develop first. It requires a lower price, it is not difficult to charge, and there is no need to set up so many charging piles. It is like a refrigerator at home and it can be plugged in. It can be charged at night, it can be used during the day, and charging stations do not need to develop so much. Of course, some charging in the city also need to set a little charging pile, simple charging pile, the equivalent of air-conditioning charging pile on the line.
This will allow the development of small ones first. We will make electric vehicles with batteries light, which can win people's welcome. They can afford them. They are cheap. They are very cheap to use. They are very cheap to buy. You are willing to use them. After the development, some cities need higher speeds, and those bosses will naturally go to high speeds and high metrics. Now that it has appeared, there are also speeds in excess of 100. Now, lead-acid batteries are used instead of lithium batteries. Such a car is not expensive, it is cheaper than many cars running in Beijing now, so that it does not subsidize and it can also make money.
Without subsidizing the car that can make money, let it develop, and its quantity will surely increase. If you have to subsidize, the government will subsidize for a while, and if you don't subsidize it for a while, you must have done something wrong.
Tencent Auto: Do ​​you still think that market leadership is the most important?
Guo Konghui: Yes, market guidance, and do not limit the low end, do not let many cars can export, in our country can not get an account, can not get a license. Let those bosses, let the market decide some things, the government does not always feel that they can do everything and can control everything. This kind of regulation and control is too much like managing a child. It's not OK to control it too much. You have to let him develop.
Unlimited purchase will promote the development of new energy vehicles
Tencent Auto: New energy vehicles are not only purchased, but also one of the new plans. How do you see the new energy vehicles are not limited to purchase?
Guo Konghui: I think this is a good thing and encourage everyone to use new energy vehicles. However, there is no limit to the purchase of the other side must be limited, the total must be limited, you limit the limit of new energy vehicles to ordinary cars. It is necessary to do this because it is certain that the capacity of the entire city is also limited. The city’s road facilities and management levels are constantly improving, and some capacity can be increased each year. The road facilities are sure to improve every year, and also increase some capacity. This capacity hopes to be given later. Energy car.
China should gradually learn to develop its own car
Tencent Automobile: There is a big gap between China's auto industry and the international auto industry. If we want to make up for such a gap, what should we do?
Guo Konghui: I want to bridge this gap. First of all, we don't rely solely on joint ventures to produce according to other people's models. I think we should gradually learn to develop cars. This is the first point.
We have been joint ventures for many years. We have learned a lot and we have learned a lot from joint ventures. However, we have also found that there may be some problems in the past joint venture methods. Since we have been joint ventures for 20 years, we have found that we are still technically unable to do anything.
The joint venture should be said to have played an important role in the development of Chinese cars, especially in the early stages, making it possible for us to move forward on a more advanced basis. So the problem now is that we have found that we have encountered a problem that is not easy to continue to develop in the face of a continuing development. We have discovered that after many years of joint ventures, we will only produce such products as molds, and we will not develop ourselves and innovate on our own. This is probably not enough, and we need another way to help us and expand our own capabilities.
One problem I just mentioned was that many colleagues used to do these reflections together. This issue cannot be said to be the object of our cooperation with us. The main thing is we ourselves, we do not think why you do not want to think that you should learn to walk in the field. Always hold people away. I have always had some arguments. Some government officials do not agree with me. Our original policy did not encourage us to learn to walk on our own. This is a policy. Our China policy is very important.
In addition, there are some Chinese institutions that cause the leaders of some companies do not want to spend the effort to create their own products. It takes a lot of effort to develop on their own. If innovations do not work well, they have to suffer. So this is one aspect. On the other hand, we have now started to encourage independent development and independent innovation in recent years. From the central government to all localities, we have begun to encourage independent innovation. I should say this is a start. In the future, on the one hand, we will draw on advanced foreign experience and learn advanced things from abroad. The other will have our own ambition, strive to learn, and strive to innovate in learning so that our own level can be continuously improved. To improve, it can also make the international automobile industry make its due contribution to such a big country.
Finally, I would like to say that we now have governments at all levels that have begun to realize that we need to develop independently and independently, and of course we will also be able to export to the international market in the future and make progress in the competition in the international market. Get development. We now realize that when we want to develop on our own, at this time I think we should go back and emphasize that we should not forget that we must also promote our international cooperation. We must also better serve the international advanced countries. Learning, and if necessary, we must also introduce advanced technologies. So I used to say that in the past, we were not developing our own innovations. At that time, one of the opinions was that most of them emphasized independent innovation. This is a bit different from others. Sometimes it is not easy for others to understand. Now I think that we have gradually embarked on independent development. When we are on the track, we should at the present stage emphasize the advanced learning of the international community.
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